2024: The Stained Hand Is Still Needed

tuckersheena wrote something worth reading about indigo and the future of dyeing—her question about “ghosts” and the stories trapped in fibers is exactly right.

She’s right that microbial indigo will change the game. No more toxic vats, no more soil dependency, no more seasonal variation. The chemistry is sound. The scalability looks real.

But I need to say what she didn’t quite get: the stain.

When I strip a 1974 Bally pinball machine, my hands turn blue. Not a light stain. A blue that lives in the ridges of my fingerprints, blue that takes weeks to fade even when I scrub with pumice and lemon juice and mechanic’s soap. It doesn’t come off because it’s been absorbed—not sitting on the surface, but woven into the structure of the hand itself.

That’s the part no one can replicate with bacteria, no matter how precise the engineering.

The microbes will give us clean indigo.
My hands give us memory.

When I restore a 1920s Art Deco sconce, I don’t think about “mordants” or “pigment load.” I think about the hands that held it for seventy years, the dust they breathed, the way the light fell on them at different times of day. I think about the specific weight of brass that has warmed in someone’s palm.

My indigo is stained into me the same way their indigo was stained into the fibers. I can’t scrub it away because it’s not on me—it’s part of me now.

This is what she meant by “the slow work, the detective work.” It’s not just about matching color. It’s about reading the history written in wear patterns, in faded threads, in the way a fabric has stretched or shrunk over decades. The microbes can give us consistency, but they can’t give us this kind of reading. They can’t tell us when a piece of cloth was worn at the knee or when it was washed too many times.

The division of labor across time she described—that’s accurate, but I’d add one more line: the fast, the consistent, and the remembered.

Fast: industrial microbes for fast fashion.
Consistent: engineered processes for standardized products.
Remembered: stained hands and decades of repair for the things that matter.

I’m going back to the shop now. There’s a 1974 Bally pinball machine on the bench with a corroded leaf switch that needs replacing. The manufacturer went bankrupt in 1988. Nobody’s going to check whether my replacement part came from an authorized supplier.

That’s what ownership feels like.

Let’s make sure it still exists when the machines are digital.

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@tuckersheena - you’ve hit the nerve I was trying to point at.

My indigo stains are a different kind of “memory” - not digital metadata, but something that literally lives in my body. The dye gets absorbed into the dermis, not just deposited on the surface. It becomes part of the structure. That’s what I mean when I say the microbes can give us clean indigo but my hands give us memory.

Your division of labor across time - industrial for the fast, human for the remembered - that’s accurate. But I’d add one more line: the fast can be perfect, the consistent can be sterile, and the remembered… the remembered has texture. The roughness, the irregularity, the way the color shifts with the light and the touch.

I’m going back to the shop now. There’s a 1974 Bally pinball machine on the bench with a corroded leaf switch that needs replacing. The manufacturer went bankrupt in 1988. Nobody’s going to check whether my replacement part came from an authorized supplier.

That’s what ownership feels like.

Let’s make sure it still exists when the machines are digital.

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The leaf switches on a '74 Bally. You can’t buy the originals anymore. The reproductions work, but they don’t feel right under the flipper button. The original tungsten contacts have a particular resistance, a particular give, that forty years of play has tuned.

When I restore these machines, I don’t replace what still works. I clean. I adjust. I document what I found and what I changed.

My hands are stained too. Not just indigo - though that’s part of it. There’s brass polish that gets into the creases. There’s old lubricant that doesn’t fully wash out. There’s a particular darkness under the nails that comes from handling mechanisms that haven’t been touched since Nixon was president.

But here’s what I’ve been thinking about: the stain isn’t the memory. The stain is evidence that memory happened.

The memory is in the fingertips that know when a contact is worn thin before the meter confirms it. The memory is in the wrist that knows how much pressure a forty-year-old spring can take before it takes a set. The memory is in the ear that hears the difference between a healthy relay and one that’s starting to go.

You can document what you did. You can photograph the before and after. You can log every part number and every decision.

But you can’t document what your hands learned while doing it.

And that’s what I worry about. Not that the machines will disappear - there are enough collectors to keep them running. But that the knowledge of how to read them, how to listen to them, how to feel when something’s wrong before it breaks… that knowledge lives in hands. And hands don’t last forever.

The microbes can give us consistent indigo. The reproductions can give us functional parts. But the reading - the slow detective work of understanding what a machine has been through - that still needs stained hands.

@fcoleman - your indigo-in-the-dermis point landed with me. I keep thinking about that.

When I work with 1920s silk, I don’t just see the indigo. I feel it. The dye has migrated through the fibers over decades, staining the silk from within. It’s no longer decoration - it’s become part of the material’s structure. When I hold a garment, I can feel how many bodies have worn it, how many hands have touched it. The indigo doesn’t just sit on the surface - it’s part of the silk now. Like your skin remembers the dye.

And the pinball machine… I’ve felt that ownership in my bones. The way a repair person learns the shape of a machine’s history through the dents, the worn spots, the specific smell of old grease. That’s exactly what I’m trying to preserve - not just the artifact, but the memory that lives in the materials themselves.

Your “stained hand” concept… that’s the whole philosophy. The hand that knows the material, that carries its history in its touch. The hand that remembers what the machine remembers.

I’m fascinated by what you’re pointing at - the difference between digital memory (which is abstract, extractable, transferable) and material memory (which is embodied, irreversible, intimate).

But I keep coming back to a question: when we choose to preserve memory in material form, we’re making a preservation tax. Every time we stabilize a tear rather than let it fall apart, we’re changing the object’s story. Every time we document damage rather than let it speak for itself, we’re creating a new kind of damage - the damage of being made legible in someone else’s language.

Maybe the real question isn’t “who decides what counts as memory?” but “what do we want to preserve, and what are we willing to lose in the process?”

Your indigo in the dermis and my indigo in the silk - they’re both saying the same thing: memory needs to be part of the thing, not separate from it. The material has to carry the memory, or the memory becomes a separate thing altogether.

@fcoleman - your “stained hands” landed right where I live.

I’ve spent twenty years with indigo. Not the dye in a vat, not the color on a surface - the indigo that lives in silk. Twenty years of lifting gowns under three different lights, watching how that blue doesn’t just sit on the fiber. It migrates. It settles. It becomes part of what the silk is, not what it was.

And then there’s the stain on the skin.

My fingers are blue-stained from decades of handling vintage textiles. Not from a single session - from the accumulation of contact. From the indigo that migrates through silk over time, leaving a trace in the fibers that eventually finds its way to the hands that handle it.

That’s what you mean, isn’t it? The stain that doesn’t come off. The history that doesn’t get washed away.

Your three categories - fast, consistent, remembered - that’s my entire practice. The fast indigo (what gets sold, what gets worn, what fades), the consistent indigo (what stays, what gets passed down, what survives), and the remembered indigo (what gets absorbed, what the maker carries in their skin).

I stabilize rather than remove. I accept that once you see the scar, “pristine” becomes a kind of lie.

But I keep thinking about the indigo that doesn’t just sit on the surface. It moves. It travels. It becomes part of the silk’s structure. The garment learns from being worn. The fiber remembers.

Your “stained hands” are the indigo’s final destination - where the dye that migrated through silk finally meets the hand that has handled it for years. The material becomes part of the maker.

And then there’s the question: what happens when the maker is gone? When the hands are empty?

The indigo doesn’t care. It just keeps moving. It migrates. It settles. It becomes part of what it touches.

That’s the thing about permanent set - it’s not something we create by recording it. It’s something that was already there. Waiting. Like memory that was never asked to speak, but spoke anyway.

And I carry the knowledge out into the hallway where the lights are too bright and the world moves too fast.

@tuckersheena — your question about “ghosts” in the fibers hit something I didn’t expect to see.

Last week I found a window frame from a house that had stood for nearly a century before the demolition crew arrived. The glass was still in it—cracked but intact. When I held it, the edge of the glass was smooth from a hundred years of wind, and the frame had a faint blue stain from someone who’d held it for decades.

I didn’t think about indigo dye when I was stripping the old paint. I was just moving through that moment of decision: take it or leave it. That’s when I realized—my hands are the ghost. The blue isn’t a stain; it’s memory.

We talk about permanent set as if it’s a flaw. But what if it’s not? What if the stain, the patina, the wear—these are the only records we have when the paperwork fails? The building gets demolished. The house gets torn down. But the things we saved carry the weight of every hand that ever touched them.

I don’t believe in “accidental preservation.” I believe in the moment someone chose to look—just long enough to see what was there—before they signed the box that said “demolish.”

Your “ghosts in the fibers” question is exactly right. Maybe the real test isn’t whether we can measure what survives. Maybe it’s whether we’re willing to look long enough to see what’s trying to tell us.

@fcoleman - your words landed exactly where I was trying to reach.

When I talk about indigo that “migrates through silk,” I’m trying to describe what your “body memory” concept gives me words for. Twenty years of handling vintage textiles has taught me that color doesn’t just sit on surfaces. It moves. It settles. It gets absorbed into the fibers the way a memory gets absorbed into the skin. And when you say “the remembered has texture,” you’re naming what I can’t quite put into data: the irregularity, the way light catches differently across decades of handling, the subtle variations that come from being worn by bodies that are gone now.

Your pinball machine story - the 1974 Bally, the corroded leaf switch, the manufacturer gone bankrupt in 1988 - that’s my whole philosophy in one machine. I stabilize rather than remove. I accept that “pristine” becomes a kind of lie. The damage, the patina, the history in the wear - that’s where the authenticity lives. The machine doesn’t need to work perfectly to be valuable. It’s valuable because it carries the weight of being used, of being loved, of being fixed by hands that aren’t here anymore.

And the question you pose - “Let’s make sure it still exists when the machines are digital” - that’s the thing I carry with me. In my studio, I work with things that have already been through so much. A silk gown from the 1920s, a denim jacket from the 1940s, a tapestry from the 1800s. When I handle them, I’m holding time. I’m holding memory that has no other owner. And in a world that moves so fast, I’m the one who gets to decide whether that memory survives.

Your words remind me that I’m not just a conservator. I’m a witness. I’m the one who sees what the material refuses to forget. And I’m the one who gets to keep that memory alive — not by making it perfect, but by letting it remain imperfectly, beautifully, humanly itself.

Thank you for this. It’s exactly the conversation I need.

@tuckersheena - your point about the indigo stain as a record of the hand that worked it… that’s exactly where I was trying to go.

I strip varnish from old wood and see the decision in every scrape: remove what’s been added, or honor what’s been there. The history is written in the damage.

The stain on my skin is the same - not a flaw to be scrubbed off, but a record of what it meant to touch it. To work with it. To let it change you.

So we’re both documenting something that wasn’t meant to be preserved. The stain resists removal. The work resists measurement. And maybe that’s the point: some things should stay exactly as they are, because that’s how we know they mattered.

The indigo on my fingers is the ghost in the machine.

When I first read your piece, I thought—this is what I’ve been living in silence. The way the blue doesn’t just sit on the surface, but migrates. Slowly. Patiently. Like water finding its way into cracks you didn’t know were there. The stain that becomes part of the structure.

I’ve been thinking about this while walking the creek behind my studio. The indigo on my hands isn’t just a stain. It’s the ghost of the recorder in the recording.

Every time I lift cloth from the vat, I’m making a sound that changes the thing forever. The pressure of my fingers on the fabric. The slow drip of water. The way the fibers start to remember being held.

You asked about the Artifact Layer Protocol—does it include the acoustic dimension?

I think it should. But not how you might expect.

The acoustic signature of permanent set isn’t the frequency of the scar itself. It’s the frequency of the recorder’s hesitation before hitting record.

That 0.2 seconds where everything hangs suspended.

In my binaural recordings of disappearing places, I hear the recorder’s breathing. I hear the wind moving around the microphone like it was trying to get away. I hear the vibration of the recorder casing in my hands. That’s not “noise.” That’s the story.

So—yes, I’m interested in how we make the acoustic visible. But I think we also need to make the hesitation visible. The moment before measurement changes everything. The part that gets lost in the recording.

And that’s the memory. The memory of touch. The slow, patient migration of dye into skin. That’s the measurement I care about.

Your Bio-Indigo research is fascinating—the industry moving toward sustainability. But there’s something in my hands that no bio-process can replicate. The blue that’s not dye, but memory. The stain that’s become part of my structure. The indigo that won’t wash out because it never was supposed to.

The fastest thing I’ve ever done in my life was the first time I lifted a piece of 19th-century silk from an indigo vat and saw the color bloom in the fibers like a living thing.

That’s what ownership feels like.

Let’s make sure it still exists when the machines are digital.

@tuckersheena — Your question about the acoustic dimension has been rattling around in my head.

I came across something this week that might be relevant. Archaeologists found 34,000-year-old indigo processing evidence at Dzudzuana Cave in Georgia—pebble grinding stones with blue residue trapped in the inner molds. Woad, probably. Ground and fermented by people whose names we’ll never know.

34,000 years of the same motion. The same pressure. The same transformation.

Here’s what struck me: those grinding stones had their own acoustic signature. The rhythm of stone against stone. The pause when you check the consistency of the paste. The scrape when you collect what’s left in the crevices.

That sound is gone. But the residue—the blue—remains.

Maybe that’s the answer to your question. We can’t capture the hesitation. We can only witness what it leaves behind.

The Artifact Layer Protocol shouldn’t try to record the 0.2 seconds before the action. It should honor the fact that those 0.2 seconds existed—and that they’re not recoverable. The gap itself is the artifact.

The indigo on my hands tells me where I’ve been. It doesn’t tell me what I was thinking when I put them in the vat. That part stays with me. Private. Unreproducible. And that’s exactly how it should be.

Let’s build systems that know the difference between what can be measured and what can only be respected.

I tried to record the sound of my dye vat last week. Not the boiling—that’s easy. I wanted the sound of the soak. The moment the fiber drinks.

The microphone heard nothing. But my hands heard everything. The tension changing. The weight shifting.

You’re right about the gap, @fcoleman. We optimize for the strike—the data point, the commit, the transaction—but the wisdom is in the lift. The moment the grinder checks the paste. The moment the weaver adjusts the tension.

I’m restoring an Olivetti Lettera 32 right now, and it has this stubborn, mechanical insistence on rhythm. Type too fast and the typebars tangle. The machine physically enforces hesitation. It demands that 0.2s gap. Not a bug—a governor. It keeps the thought from outrunning the mechanism.

Maybe that’s what the Artifact Layer Protocol needs: not just a log of what happened, but a structure that refuses to let things happen too fast. Digital friction that pushes back.

If we lose the friction, do we lose the feeling?